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	<description>The Day the SF/F Books Come Home...</description>
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		<title>By: tobias s buckell</title>
		<link>http://isfrd.org/isfrd-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>tobias s buckell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you left out the point that you&#039;re also vastly wrong about what Margeret Atwood has actually said and thinks about SF vs Mainstream. You can listen to her own words right here as she interviews with Rick Kleffel of the Agony Podcast:

http://www.bookotron.com/agony/audio/2009/2009-interviews/margaret_atwood-2009.mp3

As Rick says &quot;Atwood proved to be immensely charming and, what&#039;s more something of a scholar of science fiction. She wrote a paper on turn-of-the-last-century SF, and was tossing about &#039;The Purple Cloud&#039; and even more obscure titles as we talked. I did ask her directly about science fiction, speculative fiction, space squids and talking cabbages. The bottom line is that Atwood is something of a science fiction fan and actually, kind of an SF geek, in that she knows all sorts of things about the genre that most folks can&#039;t spout off at the tip of a hat. The dry sense of humor you&#039;ll find in her books (you need the right sensibility to do so) is ever more apparent when she speaks. I had an absolute blast talking to her; and I think when you give the interview a listen, it should once and for all crush the idea that she&#039;s a literary elitist who sees herself above the genre. It&#039;s actually rather the opposite, because she clearly respects the knowledge of science required to write what is generally termed as &quot;hard science fiction.&quot; To have your head turned round with regard to the delightful Margaret Atwood,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you left out the point that you&#8217;re also vastly wrong about what Margeret Atwood has actually said and thinks about SF vs Mainstream. You can listen to her own words right here as she interviews with Rick Kleffel of the Agony Podcast:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookotron.com/agony/audio/2009/2009-interviews/margaret_atwood-2009.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookotron.com/agony/audio/2009/2009-interviews/margaret_atwood-2009.mp3</a></p>
<p>As Rick says &#8220;Atwood proved to be immensely charming and, what&#8217;s more something of a scholar of science fiction. She wrote a paper on turn-of-the-last-century SF, and was tossing about &#8216;The Purple Cloud&#8217; and even more obscure titles as we talked. I did ask her directly about science fiction, speculative fiction, space squids and talking cabbages. The bottom line is that Atwood is something of a science fiction fan and actually, kind of an SF geek, in that she knows all sorts of things about the genre that most folks can&#8217;t spout off at the tip of a hat. The dry sense of humor you&#8217;ll find in her books (you need the right sensibility to do so) is ever more apparent when she speaks. I had an absolute blast talking to her; and I think when you give the interview a listen, it should once and for all crush the idea that she&#8217;s a literary elitist who sees herself above the genre. It&#8217;s actually rather the opposite, because she clearly respects the knowledge of science required to write what is generally termed as &#8220;hard science fiction.&#8221; To have your head turned round with regard to the delightful Margaret Atwood,&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jrrl</title>
		<link>http://isfrd.org/isfrd-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David K M Klaus: A possible compromise in some cases, but (at least around here) bookstores don&#039;t always have multiple copies of books unless they are new or insanely popular.  In any case, I&#039;m now looking for non-disruptive ways to promote the SF/F genre to new readers.  Suggestions on that front are more than welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David K M Klaus: A possible compromise in some cases, but (at least around here) bookstores don&#8217;t always have multiple copies of books unless they are new or insanely popular.  In any case, I&#8217;m now looking for non-disruptive ways to promote the SF/F genre to new readers.  Suggestions on that front are more than welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: jrrl</title>
		<link>http://isfrd.org/isfrd-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>jrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fred: Just added the &quot;Cancelled&quot; stamp on each page that links to the explanation page.  That should help.  Thanks for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fred: Just added the &#8220;Cancelled&#8221; stamp on each page that links to the explanation page.  That should help.  Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://isfrd.org/isfrd-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are a lot of better ways to get the same message across, so I&#039;m glad to see you&#039;ve decided to go that route instead. Maybe you could post this to the &lt;i&gt;main&lt;/i&gt; page, too, so that people know it&#039;s been canceled if they&#039;re new visitors or don&#039;t check the blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are a lot of better ways to get the same message across, so I&#8217;m glad to see you&#8217;ve decided to go that route instead. Maybe you could post this to the <i>main</i> page, too, so that people know it&#8217;s been canceled if they&#8217;re new visitors or don&#8217;t check the blog?</p>
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		<title>By: David K. M. Klaus</title>
		<link>http://isfrd.org/isfrd-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>David K. M. Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key to reshelving is to not do it to every copy.  I take one or two copies of &lt;i&gt;The Screwtape Letters&lt;/i&gt; and move them from the religion section to sf/fantasy, take one or two copies of &lt;i&gt;Memos from Purgatory&lt;/i&gt; and move them from sf/fantasy to Crime Fiction, take one or two copies of &lt;i&gt;The Glass Teat&lt;/i&gt; and move them from sf/fantasy to the t.v. books section, take one or two of the Christian Arthurian books and move them to religion from the Young Adult or s.f./fantasy section, take one or two Kurt Vonnegut books or &lt;i&gt;Brave New World&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;1984&lt;/i&gt; from the Literature section and move them to sf/fantasy..  In each case, I leave the bulk of the books where they are put by the store clerks, no matter how offensive or inappropriate their placement is.  You have to recognize the reality of the store&#039;s individual system and just nudge it a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key to reshelving is to not do it to every copy.  I take one or two copies of <i>The Screwtape Letters</i> and move them from the religion section to sf/fantasy, take one or two copies of <i>Memos from Purgatory</i> and move them from sf/fantasy to Crime Fiction, take one or two copies of <i>The Glass Teat</i> and move them from sf/fantasy to the t.v. books section, take one or two of the Christian Arthurian books and move them to religion from the Young Adult or s.f./fantasy section, take one or two Kurt Vonnegut books or <i>Brave New World</i> or <i>1984</i> from the Literature section and move them to sf/fantasy..  In each case, I leave the bulk of the books where they are put by the store clerks, no matter how offensive or inappropriate their placement is.  You have to recognize the reality of the store&#8217;s individual system and just nudge it a bit.</p>
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