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	<description>The Day the SF/F Books Come Home...</description>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: &quot;His (Constant&#039;s) second complaint is that he thought we wanted all SF books rolled into one comprehensive fiction section. I suppose there may be SF readers who want this, but I certainly do not. There are times I want to read a mainstream book and times I want to read SF and I like being able to find the one I want.&quot;

I agree with nearly all your other responses, (and I certainly don&#039;t want a comprehensive fiction section either, oi!) but I think you forget: what about mainstream SF books? The assumption that there&#039;s a difference between &quot;mainstream&quot; and science fiction is what&#039;s creating this issue in the first place. We have to acknowledge that a lot of the authors proposed to be moved are, in fact, &quot;mainstream,&quot; at least in that they&#039;re widely read by people who don&#039;t otherwise follow the SF genre. &quot;Time Traveler&#039;s Wife&quot; is a good recent example of that. How do you propose we deal with works that dip into both sides of the pool?

And I have to say, there&#039;s a bit of hypocrisy in your saying you &quot;like being able to find the one&quot; you want, when you intend to move books to places others might not think to look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: &#8220;His (Constant&#8217;s) second complaint is that he thought we wanted all SF books rolled into one comprehensive fiction section. I suppose there may be SF readers who want this, but I certainly do not. There are times I want to read a mainstream book and times I want to read SF and I like being able to find the one I want.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with nearly all your other responses, (and I certainly don&#8217;t want a comprehensive fiction section either, oi!) but I think you forget: what about mainstream SF books? The assumption that there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;mainstream&#8221; and science fiction is what&#8217;s creating this issue in the first place. We have to acknowledge that a lot of the authors proposed to be moved are, in fact, &#8220;mainstream,&#8221; at least in that they&#8217;re widely read by people who don&#8217;t otherwise follow the SF genre. &#8220;Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife&#8221; is a good recent example of that. How do you propose we deal with works that dip into both sides of the pool?</p>
<p>And I have to say, there&#8217;s a bit of hypocrisy in your saying you &#8220;like being able to find the one&#8221; you want, when you intend to move books to places others might not think to look.</p>
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		<title>By: LWJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LWJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it IS an asshole move, particularly in the holiday period, when the most illiterate customers come in to look for books off the wishlists of their more literate friends, when booksellers are at their most frazzled (particularly this year, when shops have held off hiring temporary staff because they&#039;re so deeply in the red) and when the two will combine most unpleasantly.

Booksellers will be shouted at by morons during an already horrible, anxious time so that you can have a temporary buzz at your own cleverness. Well done.

You&#039;re no better than the wags who stick the Bible in fiction (ho ho ho) or put erotica in the children&#039;s section or hide books by Richard Dawkins.  If you have problems with genre classifications, attack the publisher&#039;s work, not the bookseller&#039;s.  It isn&#039;t booksellers who get to decide these things, aside from the rare few, dying independent shops, which are quiet enough to catch you doing this, fix it promptly and possibly even ask you to leave.

Your protest is the equivalent of kicking the crossing guard in the leg because you find a new road layout inconvenient.  It&#039;s childish and ineffective and it hurts those who deserve it least, most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it IS an asshole move, particularly in the holiday period, when the most illiterate customers come in to look for books off the wishlists of their more literate friends, when booksellers are at their most frazzled (particularly this year, when shops have held off hiring temporary staff because they&#8217;re so deeply in the red) and when the two will combine most unpleasantly.</p>
<p>Booksellers will be shouted at by morons during an already horrible, anxious time so that you can have a temporary buzz at your own cleverness. Well done.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re no better than the wags who stick the Bible in fiction (ho ho ho) or put erotica in the children&#8217;s section or hide books by Richard Dawkins.  If you have problems with genre classifications, attack the publisher&#8217;s work, not the bookseller&#8217;s.  It isn&#8217;t booksellers who get to decide these things, aside from the rare few, dying independent shops, which are quiet enough to catch you doing this, fix it promptly and possibly even ask you to leave.</p>
<p>Your protest is the equivalent of kicking the crossing guard in the leg because you find a new road layout inconvenient.  It&#8217;s childish and ineffective and it hurts those who deserve it least, most.</p>
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